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FYI: episode 9 "Child's Play" @ 05:30 into the episode... the book page she is reading on the train:

Page 51 of Eyewitness Companions: Mythology by Neil Philip, Philip Wilkinson. Google Books

Quote I matched: "god of the sea and, along with Zeus and the Underworld god Hades, was one of the three greatest deities of Ancient Greece. He had huge power, and his ability to summon up earthquakes and storms at sea made mortals tremble at his strength. If thwarted or defeated, he would unleash a terrible flood—which is precisely what happened when he got involved in a dispute over which deity should have power over Athens."

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@2:38 - the narrative that audiences liked it, critics did not, I think is generally true if you look at a key point you emphasized. Expensive action scene after high-budget action scene. The violence is titillating. There are people who like the film just because of the energy, violence, action. Same probably goes for the customs, artwork, etc.

The story - and it's themes as they relate to other stories and the world at large - that's something I don't find consumptive audiences put much concern into other than expanding on the elements they liked (fight scenes, technology levels of fighting in one group vs. another, etc).

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@28:40 I would also emphasize that metaphor does not require authorial intent. In the storytelling of Muhammad, the Quran, the author of the story truly believes much of what he is telling. And audiences can project upon such metaphorical story elements from their own mind, even when they contradict other parts of the story or other well-known (competing/conflicting) stories. The crisis of a society comes when people forget that metaphors are dynamic, shape shifting, and instead declare them factual and declare certain interpretations of them as believers and other interpretations as non-believers. In contrast, when progression of understanding and expansion of tolerance are the central concern (the highest concern) - one would declare such story elements as dynamic, flexible, fascinatingly complex. Inclusive of multiple interpretations, and even future ideas and thoughts, instead of a closed and rigid system of segregating interpretations into group factions.

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Paradox story element, a key to mythology stories, paradoxes of interpretation. Human psychology, mind seams.

Does Yoda mean that he knows Rey took the books, has the library, or does he mean that her past experience of self-raising, like Buddha story, prepares her to be the author of new books? The paradox is this: how did the books get written, what comes first - experience or books? Who teaches the book author?

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Yoda's point was that her life's pain, on her home world, parent loss - was her training. The brief encounter with Luke on the island was like a doctorate thesis committee. Her training was her entire lifetime of suffering.

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"For all you people out there that theorized over the last 2 years on reddit, youtube or fan forum who snoke was, or his background

For all you people who wondered how the great jedi master Luke, who fearlessly confronted Vader and The Emperor and help take down the empire in the OT, wondering how he was going to help fight against the first order (remeber, they made a big deal about finding him in TFA...it was all about the map). But only to find out he was hermit and coward, got taken down by a girl in a mini duel, a girl who only held a light saber twice, and then only for him to die a senseless death

For all you people who spent the last 2 years theorized on who Rey's parents were, only to find out she was abonded by drunks.

For all you people who remember watching The Empire Strikes Back in a movies theater when you were an 8 years old kid, all you out there that grew up with Star Wars as part of their childhood.

How about Knights of Ren? Well you get the point, and i can go on and on

To all you people I just want you guys to know that Disney and Rian Johnson took their middle fingers, shoved them straight up your ass and took your $20. Im done with this franchise!" - https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/7jke23/spoilers_star_wars_the_last_jedi_discussion_thread/dre9610